EXCLU: Meet Georgia's newest election "investigator"— a PI who backs Trump
Larry Duckworth joins another election denier in Georgia as Republican attempts to steal November heat up.
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We’ve got an exclusive here today at Doom and Zeteo that details Georgia’s newest election “investigator.” Larry Duckworth is a private investigator who has been hired by the State Election Board to look into election complaints across the state. While that may sound above board, in practice what it means is that Duckworth is being directed by the SEB’s Trump-supporting, election-denying majority to drag up anything that they think can help convince people that November’s mid-term elections are rife with fraud.
Duckworth is joined in these efforts by Jason Frazier, who the board is also now paying with taxpayer dollars to act as an investigator. We’ve reported on Frazier a lot here — he’s a hardcore election denier and conspiracy theorist who, like Duckworth, should be nowhere near the election process. Alas, this is the world in which we now live.
Anyway, Chloe here at Doom found Duckworth’s Facebook page which contained enough evidence of support for election lies and Trump to prompt me to give him a call to talk about his beliefs. (This reminds me of the time I called former SEB member Rick Jeffares to ask him if he had sought a position in the Trump administration in exchange for help with pursuing election fraud claims in Georgia, and Jeffares just admitted to it outright.)
Because I know that the SEB, Georgia’s election denial movement and perhaps even powerful state Republican lawmakers are likely to say I somehow spun Duckworth’s comments and beliefs, I’m providing the entire recording of my conversation with him here. You can read a transcript of our discussion below if you like.
I’ve also got a breakdown at Doom’s home on YouTube of Duckworth’s posts, what he’s looking into in places like Cherokee County, and some other news about what the SEB is doing to challenge the eligibility of voters in Democratic strongholds like Chatham County, where I live.
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Interview conducted July 13, 2026. LD - Larry Duckworth, JG - Justin Glawe
JG: Larry, this is Justin Glawe, reporter in Savannah, and I’m working on a couple of lines of reporting that I was hoping to talk with you about if you have a couple of minutes.
LD: Yeah but for comment, we have a chain of command… You’ll need to talk to (SEB executive director) James Mills in Atlanta.
JG: OK. Sure, yeah, I’m happy to do that. I mean, the reason I wanted to talk to you about it is because they deal specifically with some things that you’ve posted on Facebook about, you know, election matters, and so I figured it would be best to go straight to the source.
LD: I have not posted anything on Facebook about election matters.
JG: Well, I’m looking at a post right here that’s, there’s multiple posts here that are on a, on a profile with your name and the same photo that’s on your CV. So are you saying this is not your Facebook page … On April 1st, 2023? You’ve got a thing about time to get serious for your family’s future. Uh, there’s multiple posts on here and they all have your name and your face as the profile picture.
LD: Why don’t you send it to me, I don’t remember doing those. That’s fine, I’m a bipartisan guy.
JG: Well, one of them says we must counter these Liberal dishonesties to destroy elections by citizens. Only is that bipartisan in your mind?
LD: Well, I don’t ever do that.
JG: Well, this was March 11th, 2024.
LD: Okay, maybe they were some specific things, good, so, I understand what you’re trying to do in style so, send me those cause I disavow those right now till I see them.
JG: What do you, what do you mean that I mean it’s clearly you it’s the same photo that’s on your CV that’s online. Like it’s clearly you and it’s clearly your page. I mean, in one of these posts, which was 2024, you say that…
LD: OK, so I’m talking. It’s clearly me to you, it’s not clearly me to me.
JG: I need if you’re gonna disavow this and claim that this is not you, sure I guess, but like, you know, this is you it says ‘the cheat is on,’ but I’m happy to send them to you. And if you would like to refute this and claim that you did not say these things, you know, then I guess I’ll just have to take that into consideration. But, I mea…
LD: Well, send them to me.
JG: you don’t recall posting any of these multiple things about
LD: Did you not listen to me? I don’t recall…
JG: no, it’s not that I’m not listening to you, Larry, it’s that I don’t believe you.
LD: That’s alright. Ok, ok…
JG: So I think, I think you’re lying and I think you’re a committed Trump supporter who is now probing elections under the guise that there is widespread election fraud when there is not. That’s what I think.
LD: I’m not committed to anybody, I’m committed to the rule of law
JG: Well, one of your posts directly says right here that you are committed to Trump and that you should vote for Trump.
LD: Well, send those to me because I don’t remember doing that.
JG: So, okay, and what happens then when I don’t get a response from you?
LD: I don’t know.
JG: Okay, so what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna write a story that we’re gonna publish that says that you’re a Trump supporter and an election denier. And if you wanna go ahead and refute that and say that these are not your posts, I’ll, I’ll, you know, okay, maybe I won’t write the story then, but, I mean, I just, it’s it’s clearly you, so, yeah,
LD: I am not anti-Trump. I’m not a MAGA person. I’m not an election denier.
JG: So then, so then what does it mean when you say the cheat is on?
LD: I don’t know, I don’t remember doing that. I don’t know what the context is.
JG: Context is another reason we need to turn out the vote. The cheat is on, on August 9th, 2024.
LD: What cheat is on? What cheat are we talking about?
JG: I assumed it would be something related to elections. Larry, I mean, you’ve got another post here that says ‘only Republicans voting in large numbers can stop this typical Dem Liberal madness.’
LD: I don’t remember doing that.
JG: Okay, you got another one here that says we must counter these Liberal dishonesties to destroy elections by citizens, only they hate normal America.
LD: I don’t want an election destroyed by anyone.
JG: Yeah, but this is, but this is directly and then it’s like got a Fox News, uh, uh, story here about attempting to register undocumented immigrants to vote and you say ‘Dangerous! They hate normal America because it sees through their lives.’ Are you saying that you don’t agree with that post that you wrote?
LD: Say that again. That doesn’t register. Say that again.
JG: Yeah, it says you said we must counter these Liberal dishonesties to destroy elections by citizens only. And then in reference to Democrats, you say ‘they hate normal America because it sees through the lies. Dangerous.
LD: I don’t remember that at all. That’s all BS.
JG: Okay, this is your post on your Facebook page.
LD: Well, it wasn’t by me.
JG: So then are you saying that your Facebook page was hacked?
LD: I don’t know. This is stuff out of the blue to me. I’ve asked you to send it to me. I can tell you what, I’m an American. Um, I’m not a MAGA person. I’m not against the MAGA people. Matter of fact, I was a Democrat for 34 years. So the issue is, I’m trying to be very… I very much believe in election integrity. I very much believe in self responsibility, honesty. I believe in … principle. I believe, today, a certain party [unintelligible] better, but when I do this job, which is all that counts, I’m very non-partisan.
JG: So when I’m looking at your CV here, it says licensed professional investigator and security president related bio. And it’s got, like, detect Excel,it’s got private investigator agency president, and then, like, some numbers here that look like registration numbers PSC…
LD: Yeah, that’d be correct.
JG: Yeah, so this is you, and it’s got a link to your Primordial Leadership [book]. So the same photo that is on this bio for you is also the exact, is the exact same photo that’s on this Facebook page that has all of these.
LD: I don’t want to say it for the fourth time. Send it to me. You know, to the degree that that is there, I don’t know, but I’ll comment when I see it.
JG: I mean, you’ve got, you’ve got a post on here from January 12, where you share a video that comes directly from Donald Trump’s Facebook page.
LD: OK, I don’t remember doing that, send it to me. How many times do I need to ask you to do that?
JG: All right, I’ll send it to you, but I just, here’s the thing. I don’t think, I think that when you see this you’re going to be like, oh, no comment. So while I have you on the phone here, I wanna get your comment on, if you say you’re not a Trump supporter, why are you sharing a reel from the president’s page on January 12?
LD: I said I am not a MAGA person. Who I voted for is my business and my business only.
JG: Well, it is your business until you’re hired by the state election board to investigate.
LD: It is my business. I have no obligation to say who I voted for…
JG: I’m not asking who you voted for. I’m asking you to speak to whether or not you think that the 2020 election was stolen, and whether your investigations are seeking to confirm that, or whether you think that your power granted by the SEB is going to help you to be able to prove those disproven allegations.
LD: I am not investigating the 2020 election at all.
JG: Okay. What are you doing? What are you doing in Cherokee and Cobb County? Then what are you looking into in those places?
LD: In both cases, those are complaints that came to the SEBs from individuals, um, about specific … I won’t get into specifics. And I’m investigating those, and I’m doing so with a very professional manner like the decorated detective I was and am, and a licensed detective, and it’s done in a very non-partisan way. That’s the core issue.
JG: Actually you’ve got another post here on September 23rd or September 2024 where you directly advocate voting for Donald Trump and JD Vance.
LD: OK, if I did do I not have that right to do that?
JG: No, you absolutely have the right to do that. But I, you, you have, you have already told me I’m not a MAGA person and I don’t support Trump. And here is a post in which you are directly advocating…
LD: I didn’t say I didn’t support Trump, I said I’m not a MAGA person….
JG: Okay, alright, so you, so you do support Trump then…
LD: I’m not going to tell you who I support.
JG: Alright, let me ask you a very simple question….
LD: It has no bearing on my investigating any cases that I’m doing…
JG: Okay, you can say that, but these posts allude to a pretty committed political ideology, so let me ask you a very simple question. Did Joe Biden win the 2020 election?
LD: He was certified, he won,
JG: I know I, okay, so he did win. Being certified is, as I’m sure you’re aware, as somebody who works for the State Election Board, being certified is different from saying he won the vote count. Did Joe Biden win the vote count? Did he beat Donald Trump fair and square in terms of who the voters chose? Not certified.
LD: I cannot say he did not.
JG: I’m sorry say that again,
LD: I cannot say he did not.
JG: I don’t even, that’s like a triple negative there. Did Joe Biden win the election or not?
LD: Then get smarter. I cannot say he did not win.
JG: All right. So, so what are we doing here, Larry? You’re gonna tell me I’m not a Trump guy, and then you’ve got Facebook post that show that you are a Trump guy.
LD: I never said I’m not a Trump…
JG: You’re to tell me that you’re not looking into 2020 election stuff, but,
LD: I’m not. I’m not.
JG: OK, what conversations have you had? How did… tell me a little bit about how James Mills came to find you? How do you know James Mills? How did the whole hiring thing go, go down?
LD: Well that’s, you’d have to call him…. I know but I’m not answering a question from…
JG: Well, he’s not gonna talk to the press because that’s just like how he operates. I’m happy to try to give him a call, but I got you on the phone right now. So maybe you can give me some insight into how it is that you got hired for this position.
LD: I don’t mind doing it personally, but I don’t think it’s the right protocol and you’ll have to ask him. And I … just because I believe in the chain of command.
JG: Well, it appears that you also believe that elections are inherently fraudulent. Would that be fair to say?
LD: No, I think they can be but I’m not saying they are.
JG: So then do you believe that the 2020 election was fraudulent?
LD: I don’t have any facts to say that it was.
JG: So do you believe that Democrats are trying to get undocumented immigrants to vote?
LD: I’ve heard reports of that but I don’t have factual proof of that,
JG: Are you looking into?
LD: I’m a cop. I’ve got to have the facts like Joe Friday, just the facts ma’am.
JG: Well, yeah, but so, but just the facts doesn’t then you share a story that makes those allegations on your Facebook page. Like those two things don’t line up. Like if you’re saying just the facts, then you don’t share a story or your opinion as you’ve done on your Facebook page that make these allegations. Do you see the difference there?
LD: No
JG: No, no, you don’t?
LD: I’m answering question about, do I know that it was wrong? I don’t know.
JG:
LD: I don’t know how they link up. I have no fact that Biden didn’t win, none. It may come out, but I have no facts that he didn’t win. I have no facts that Trump won.
JG: But you have no, you have no facts that, but you have no facts for the opposite of that. You have no facts that Biden did win. Is what you’re saying by saying that?
LD: That he was certified is a fact.
JG: actually.Oh, here’s a great post from you, Larry on March 28th, 2023. It says I stand with Trump.
LD: Okay.
JG: alright, so we started off this conversation by you saying you’re not a Trump supporter.
LD: No, I didn’t… You said that. I didn’t say that.
JG: No, you said I’m not, I’m not MAGA, I’m not a Trump supporter
LD: Well MAGA and Trump are different
JG: to you. Okay alright, sure, I’m telling you they’re not, they’re not gonna appear differently from … to the many many people who read this and go, ‘why is a guy who is this partisan involved with investigating election matters in Georgia?’
LD: Well listen I’ve got to get back to this meeting, but let me be very clear, I am a very non-partisan guy doing these investigations for the Cherokee, and then for the Chatham — they’re one of 12 [investigations] that I have, they’re very done very factually, very non-partisan, down the middle. I don’t have any bias one way or the other about what the facts are.
JG: So how are people to believe that when your Facebook page is riddled with claims of election fraud and falsehoods about undocumented immigrants voting and abject support for Trump? How do you expect members of the public to take you at your word?
LD: Well they’ll just have to look at the results. The results will be very non-partisan.
JG: [...4.1s]But the, the result, the result, but the point is, is that people who don’t trust you are going to say, this guy should never been hired in the first place, and now here he is, he’s been given [...0.6s] basically [...0.6s] power to be able to investigate things that he’s too partisan to be involved in to begin with. So by the time the results come down, [...0.8s] how’s anybody to trust those results considering your open partisanship?
LD: Well then that’d be defamation to me. ‘Cause it’s not true.
JG: What’s defamation?
LD: To claim that I’m doing things because of a bias. That’d definitely be defaming me.
JG: Are you accusing me of defaming you?
LD: Saying that or implying that…
JG: Oh, yeah, no, I think it’s … I think it’s 100%... It’s not my implication, but, I mean, I think it’s an implicitation. I think people are going to have very legitimate questions about how someone who has posted these things and started off this conversation by denying that they even posted them to begin with.
LD: I don’t… I said I don’t know, I’d have to see them. You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m smarter than you, don’t do that.
JG: Okay, well, this is your face, but you live in Suwanee, right?
LD: That’s correct, yes.
JG: Yeah, you got a family member named Doug Simmons.
LD: I’ve got a … yeah, well, I’m not saying who. The answer’s not ‘no.’
JG: Okay? And you’re from, initially, you’re from Cleveland, Ohio.
LD: Yes, that’s correct.
JG: Great. So this is your Facebook page. Here’s a picture of you smiling in front of a painted photo of an old ship with sails on it [...0.6s] from 2014. So this is your Facebook page. So are you gonna deny that these are your posts, or can we just?
LD: Until I see ‘em I can’t deny or confirm.
JG: [...3.2s]All right, here’s what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna text you right now, this, a link to this Facebook page. You do know how to use links and Facebook pages and things like that, right?
LD: I think I do.
JG: Okay, let’s hope so because you’re, because you’re an investigator and I assume you have to do like a lot of computer work and stuff like that. So let’s hope you’re able to navigate this. So I’m going to text this to you right now while I got you on the phone.
LD: OK, well I’ll be tied up until tomorrow but that’s fine.
JG: Well, sure, I’m sure it’ll take a long time to confirm whether or not this is the Facebook page that you started and belongs to you. So there it is right there
LD: My invitation to you is, for the case that I’m working on … non-partisan, do not try make things like they aren’t. I’m just giving you that.
JG: I’m not gonna make … I’m, I’m taking you at your own words here, and the words that are posted on your Facebook page, Larry, where you say you support Trump, where you claim that Democrats cheat in elections, where you claim that elections are full of fraud.
LD: Send it to me.
JG: I sent you the Facebook page.
LD: And what is your name?
JG: Justin Glawe. G-L-A-W-E.
LD: Glawe, OK thank you Justin. Ok, be an active reporter, but be honest.
JG: I’m putting your words out there, Larry, that’s why I need you to… OK, hung up.
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